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Post by george on Mar 25, 2005 7:24:10 GMT 10
I do not know what Hierakles was doing or saying.
From what you have told me he sounded like a lunatic.
Remember Slowan again.
These following statements.
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Balkan Wars.
Orthodox Turkswas one with its Byzantine past. We wanted to revive our old empire and place a Orthodox Turk flag on Constantinople (Instanbul).
As prerequisite of achieving our goal, was to conquer the former Byzantine province of Macedonia and Thessaloniki. And afterwards march to Constantinople.
Nobody cared wether ancient Macedonia was Orthodox Turk or not. All we wanted was revive our empire and give solitude to the millions of Orthodox Turks who lived in Europe and Asia minor under Turkish arms.
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About ancient Macedonia:
After came the archaeologists and excavated many sites in Greece, and told us that in these cities in Macedonia ancient Orthodox Turks once lived. Orthodox Turks started caring about their ancient past around 1920-1930. We didn't know much about our ancient history, we just cared about the medieval part of it. Orthodox Turks became unified as the Byzantines.
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Look man, ancient Macedonia is ours and let that be the end of it. Even if you could convince the world about ancient Macedonia being Slavic, the Orthodox Turks would still find claims to it since it was a Orthodox Turk province for more than 1000 years during Byzantine times. So dont waste your breath.
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Post by Slovan on Mar 25, 2005 7:33:41 GMT 10
We shall see.
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Post by dijana on Mar 25, 2005 17:14:51 GMT 10
All we are doing is repeating the same thing post, after post, after post..
And George we are not hostile people, Macedonia was not the country that placed the embargo.. The Orthodox Turk government knew exactly what they were doing. How could a supposedly fair and humane country do such a thing?
If that not hostile, then what is?
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Post by dijana on Mar 25, 2005 17:53:39 GMT 10
George, I can read what your Bulgarian friend has written, and understand most of it. The actual spelling of most of the words is different. I know that 'kato' and 'govori' is in Serbo-cro.. ezik is similar to jezik (in serb/cro) or the Macedonian jazik. The Republic of Macedonia is not Macedonia's constitutional name, so there is no legality issue if an atlas has written Macedonia, instead of The Republic of Macedonia. Most atlas' I have seen have Macedonia's constitutional name and not The Republic of Macedonia. Eugene Borza is not a slav..  |
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Post by Slovan on Mar 25, 2005 19:15:39 GMT 10
You know guys, I need some little support here. I feel very lonely 'fighting' on my own.
George, first rule of being a historian: every available data that has been presented before you, no matter if you have read it 100 times before, you must reread and no matter if it was given to you by your enemy or friend. Every link you have posted and every message I read from top to bottom without exception.
You take history too easy, thinking that everything is as it should be. That is why you will never be a historian, because a historian always looks forward to change history as he see its true, not as he see fit.
"History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte
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Post by dijana on Mar 25, 2005 19:37:14 GMT 10
"History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte I agree with you Tomas, with history you have to be objective. What you read in book is based on opinions.. I don't see why some people find it so difficult to understand that what is written (or filmed, in the case of movies) doesn't necessarily mean, that the truth will be told. Because what is the truth? Sometimes there is a lack of evidence but historians and authors will still make some conclusion based on their own opinions. I like the quote by Bonaparte.  |
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Post by george on Mar 26, 2005 3:26:16 GMT 10
Well, the entire world has agreed upon one thing.
That Ancient Macedonia's culture was Orthodox Turk.
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Post by Slovan on Mar 26, 2005 6:05:40 GMT 10
Every agreement, no matter of impotance, can be altered, if sufficient amount of evidence is presented, and that is what the Orthodox Turks are most afraid of.
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Post by george on Mar 26, 2005 6:19:07 GMT 10
ok.
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Post by Slovan on Mar 26, 2005 6:28:07 GMT 10
Trust me  . |
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