Ancient Macedonian names

[Slovan]

Let me just present you ancient Macedonian names:


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Skupi: = (in Slavic = Skup = people gathered together) = inhabited place = the ancient name of Skopje;

Stubera: (in Slavic = Stuboru = pillars) = ancient macedonian town near Prilep mentioned in Titus Livius book on the Macedonian-Roman wars

Stobi: = (in Slavic = Stolbi and Stobi) = stairs or pillars = ancient Macedonian town mentioned in Titus Livius book on the Macedonian-Roman wars

Dober: = ( in Slavic = Good;masc. or Goods) = town near modern Strumica mentioned by Tuckidides

Beria: = (in Slavic = Beri (taking care or picking up); (Berovo = extant town in Republic of Macedonia) = ancient Macedonan town mentioned in Titus Livius book on the Macedonian-Roman wars

Dobera: = (in Slavic = Good; fem.) = region on south from Prespa lake map in the Hammond's book "The Macedonian State".

Gordinia: = (Proto-Slav = Gordia = fortification or town) = town mentioned by Tuckidides. Also Gordi(on) and Gordi(as) = remember the Gordian knot and our names Gordana and Gordan also the word Gord = proud.
Gordinia is mentioned by Tuckidides.

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Ata(s). The root of this name contains the noun "at", which in the so called "Old Slavic language" meant "a horse". We note that the ancient Macedonians were great horsemen and horses were very importaint for them. Such names allready exsists in onomasticons of other peoples (for example Bulgarians have their popular name Asparuh, which means "speed horse" in Old Bulgarian language). The same name "Ata" is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Apell(es). The root of this name contains the noun "apel" (a call) which we have in the present day Macedonian language.

Atarhi(as). The root of this name contains the noun "atar". This is a Macedonian archaism for the word "love". Names that contain the word "love" exist in a majority of lexicons.

Bere(s). The root of this name contains the verb "bere" (to pick up) that exists today in the Macedonian language and in other "Slavic" languages. Also in the present day Macedonian onomasticon there are names derived from verbs. The name "Bere" is present In todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Crater(us)32). The root of this name contains the word "krater" (crater) which exsists in the present day Macedonian and other "Slavic" languages. In todays' Macedonian onomasticon is present the name "Krate".

Caran(us)33). This name might be connected to the present day Macedonian noun "kruna" (a crown). The name "Karanche" is present In todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Dada. The noun "dada" in the present day Macedonian language means "older sister". The name "Dada" is present In todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Daron. This is a name for the ancient Macedonian god of healing. Its etymology is known, and it means "he that gives health." This means that the name of this god contains the Macedonian noun "dar" (a gift). The names Darun, Dare, Dara and others are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Del(us). The verb "dela" (to work) exists in the so called "Old Slavic language", as well as in several present day "Slavic languages". The name "Dele" is present In todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Dimno(s). The adjective "dimno" exists in the present day Macedonian language and still means "steamy The names Dimna, Dimon, Dimnak and others are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Diplai(os)34). A name of an upper Macedonian (Payonian) ruler. In his name is the noun "dipla" that in dialectal form in the present day Macedonian language means a bouquet of flowers. The noun "dipla" is also used as a designation for a type of old Macedonian instrument.

Dita. The noun exists in Slavic languages as "dite" or "dete", which means "a child". In 19th century Macedonian onomasticon was recordered the same name "Dita".

Dita(s). This is an obvious form of the preceding name Dita, but it has been Hellenized with the suffix "s".
Dud(es). The noun "dud" (a type of wood) exists in several "Slavic" languages. The names Dude and Duda are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.
Glaukia(s)35). Could this name be derived from the noun "glava" (a head)? In 19th century Macedonia one finds the male name Glavko.36)

Gauan(us). This is an old originally ancient Macedonian name, first mentioned by Herodotus. It has obvious similarities to the noun "gaval", that represents an archaism for the "kaval" (a short Macedonian wind instrument). In 15th century Macedonia one finds the male names: Gavale and Gavala.

[Slovan]

Kopria. This name has possible connections to the noun "kopra" (a dill). It is a well-known practice to derive personal names from those of the plant world. In 16th century Macedonia one finds the female name Kopra.

Lasten. This name may be connected to the noun "lastovica" (in Serbian: "lasta"), which means "a swallow". The name Laste is present in today's Macedonian onomasticon.

Lyka. This female Macedonian name, which exists in the present day language, is possibly derived from the noun "lika" (a face, pretty face). The name Lika is present in today's Macedonian onomasticon.

Milo. This name was mentioned by Plutarch as a name of a Macedonian military leader in the Macedonian-Roman conflicts. This name exists to the present day in the Macedonian onomasticon. It has an obvious identification with the present day Macedonian adjective "milo" (dear), from which a number of names are (Milosh, Milko, Milka).

Mesti(us). The root of this name contains the noun (archaism) "mesti" (small childrens' shoes made from wool). In later Macedonian onomasticon there were also names derived from pieces of clothes.

Mamina. This name fully corresponds to the present day Macedonian adjective "mamina" (the one who belongs to her mother). In 18th and 19th century Macedonia one finds the female name Maminka.

Mama. This is identical to the present day Macedonian noun "mama", which in any case, exists in other languages. In 15th century Macedonia one finds the female name Mamica (deminutive for Mama).

Mama(s). It is obvious that this is a Hellenized variant on the previous name.
Manta. The noun "mantija", that exists in the present day Macedonian language represents a type of long garment. In 19th century Macedonia one finds the same female name Manta.

Mantyes. This is probably a variant of the previous name. The spoken form of this word (without the suffix "s") is still closer to the noun "mantija".

Med(es). The root of this name contains the noun "med" (honey), which exists in todays' Macedonian language as well in most other "Slavic" languages. The name Mede is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Myrcin(us). Name of a king of an ancient Macedonian tribe Edoni, mentioned by Herodotus. If we remove the Orthodox Turk "us", we get the name Myrcin (Mirkin). To the present day in the Macedonian language there is the female name "Mirka" (derived from the noun "mir", which means peace), while "Mirkin" is an adjective which means "The one who belongs to Mirka". Among the Macedonians, right up to the 20th century, men frequently received names derived from their mother's name (Kanin son of Kana; Mirkin son of Mirka and etc.). Could that be the case with this name? The names Mirkan, Mirin and so on are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Mucati. The verb "mucati" exists in a number of the "Slavic" languages. In the Macedonian language the verb "mucna" means "to speak". Maybe this name can be connected to the noun "mucka" (snout). If we read "c" as "k", then maybe the root of this name can be connected to the noun "mukach" (which means a cry baby). The names Mucan Muce, Mucko, Mukan, Muko are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Nana. The noun "nana" in the Macedonian language today is used to signify an older female relative. In dialectal form "nana" takes the form of the verb, to sleep. The name Nana is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Pita. The noun "pita" (a type of food), can be found in a number of "Slavic" languages. In todays' Macedonian onomasticon is present the name Pito. There are other Macedonian names derived from the food: Piroshka, Pituluca and others.

Pittak(os). Could this be a variant of the previous name? The noun "pitach" exists in the present day Macedonian language, with the meaning, "one who begs". The names Pito and Pitako are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Plator. The noun "plat" exists in the present day Macedonian language as a type of high quality cloth. The suffix "or" is encountered in other male personal names, which means that it is independent of the root "plat". The name Platin is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Pyri(as).The root of this name could be connected to the noun "pir" (merriment). The name Piri is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Pyrh(os). This is probably a variant of the previous name.

Perustae. The noun "perustija" in the present day Macedonian language means an iron spit for cooking meat over a fire, an item that had great significance in the preparation of food in the past. The name Peruska is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Rumi37). A female name that could possibly be connected to the adjective "rumena" (ripe red). In todays' Macedonian onomasticon there is name "Rumi", which is short form of the name "Rumena" (ripe red).

Sita. A name that is identical to the present day Macedonian adjective "sita" (eating to satisfaction). The male name Sitko is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Sopol(is).This ancient Macedonian name is mentioned by the Orthodox Turk historian Arrian as the name of a Macedonian officer in the army of Alexander the Great. It obviously contains the root "sopol" (a strong spring) from the so called "Old Slavic language". The name Sopol is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Stasanor. This name contains the present day Macedonian adjective "stasan" (ripe). We've said that the suffix "or" can be found in other male names, which means that it is outside of the root "stasan". The names Stasin, Stase and Staso are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Silen(us). Name of a forest demon in Brygian mythology. The root of this name contains the present day Macedonian adjective "silen" (that which has spiritual or physical strength). In middle age Macedonia one finds the names: Silan, Silano and Silane.

Stamen(os)38). The root of this name contains the present day Macedonian adjective "stamen" (reliable, firm). The name Stamen is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Sever(os). The root of this word contains the noun "sever" (north), which exists in in a number of present day "Slavic" languages. The name Sever is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Sipa. In the Macedonian language there exists the noun "sipa" (a type of fish), which lives in Macedonian lake waters. It is a well known practice to derive personal names from the names of animals. The name Sipe is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Sipa(s). This is obviously a Hellenized variant of the previous name.

Scritia39). The adjective "skrita" (secret) is apparent in this name that exists in "Slavic" languages.

Tata, Tato, Tataia. These are obvious variations of a name derived from the noun "tato" i "tata", which means "a father" and can be found in several "Slavic" languages. The name "Tataia" probably is a variant on these two names. In middle age Macedonia one find the names: Tato, Tate, Tatko, Tatka, Tatin.

Temen(os). The root of this name contains the present day Macedonian adjective "temen" (dark).

Traizina. The root of this word may contain the present day Macedonian adjective "trazena" (expected, sought).

Tip(as). The root of this name contains the noun "tip" (type), which is a word found in several Slavic languages. The names Tipa and Tipe are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Vitel(is). The root of this name contains the noun "vitel", which is found in the present day Macedonian and still means (whirlpool). The name Vitol is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Zaika. This is one of the most interesting ancient Macedonian female names. It may represent a female form of the present day Macedonian "zajak" (rabbit). In any case, there are numerous examples of names taken from names of animals. The names Zaia (Zaja) and Zaiko (Zajko) are present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

Zaimina. The present day Macedonian language contains the adjective "zemjina" (in dialectal form "zemina") which means "the one who belongs to Earth". There is also the adjective "zimna" (the one who belongs to the winter"). The name Zemko is present in todays' Macedonian onomasticon.

[Slovan]

We would also add to this list the name of the well-known Brygian goddess Zemela, who was goddess of the earth. There is an obvious similarity to the Macedonian noun "zemja" (in dialectal form: "zemla"), which is similar in other "Slavic" languages.

We would also mention the name of a Brygian tribe, the "Mushki", who lived in the 9th century before Christ. Their name is identical to the noun "mushki" (men), which exists in other "Slavic" languages.

Their king was called Mita a name which remains unchanged in a number of "Slavic" languages.
There are other personal names of ancient Macedonians which in their spoken form have associations with present day Macedonian words, but only some of the more obvious examples have been mentioned.


Tshelniku - leader, commander; tshelo - forehead, in front

Phoinik - soldier, infantryman; phoj (voj) - battle, war

Vedy - water; Voden (Edessa) - abundance of water

Pez - to walk; mdrn. pesh

Pella - stone, rock; mdrn. spela, spila

Arot(os) - Heracles; arot - the old one

Sarissa - thrust through; mdrn. zari-sa

It is interesting that these typical ancient Macedonian words have the same meaning as the modern Macedonian words.

[shyester]

Nice post dude,

[dijana]

Great post!

mmm.. pita.. ;D

[dijana]

What happened?

[Slovan]

Nothing. Dijana I can't see your pic.

Anyway, more words:

Slava = glory; Slavs = the glorious ones;
From this name during the middle ages arose the word: slave. Since it was written in the Christian law than only un-Christian can be servi and Slavs being pagans (those who lived north of Danube) it was us who became servi which after us were named Slaves.
In old Slavic slave was called robot hence the word of modern servant machines.

Orthodox Turk - Hellene = newcomer/immigrant.
Hellenes came from Asia Minor to Europe some 1300 BC and conquered the Achaean civilization. The evidence that prove Orthodox Turks are not pure Indo-Europeans (unlike Slavs, Germans, Celts, Balts and Latini) comes from number of factors:
their very name Helleni:

Helleni-Xelleni-Kselleni-Selleni=Macedonian/Slavic - seleni - migrants

Elle - gr. come here

40%-50% of ancient Orthodox Turk language is not Indo-European (for it does not comply with neither Slavic, Latin, Celtic, German or Baltic), but Middle eastern and African.

Genes of modern and ancient Orthodox Turks (genes taken from mummies and buried corpses) are related to sub-Saharan/desert origin, while Macedonia (both ancient) belong to Mediterranean group like Roman, Iberian, Celtic and part Slavic.

Writings found in Mycenaean prior to the Orthodox Turk invasion are not Orthodox Turk and cannot be deciphered, but couple of lines have been with the use of Macedonian and Slovene (the most archaic of all Slavic).

Orthodox Turks could not come from north down the Balkans as it was presumed by some scholars for there is no evidence of them ever living north of Thessaly.

Slavs were the only nation in Europe that had an Urnfield culture. This custom is still practiced by Indians to which Slavic is the closest language.
Urnfields have been found in Illyria, Thrace and Macedonia and some even 10.000 years old.

More soon.

[dijana]

Slovan said:

Nothing. Dijana I can't see your pic.

hehe.. what picture? ;D

[PARMENION]

Slovan you have absolutely no idea where the word "Hellenes"..( Ellhnes-in Orthodox Turk ) comes from!!!!!!!!
Now you have prooven you know only what you want to know.

P.S. We are local Europeans,you are not.Get used to it!
Ah!..and another thing.Check the Euro paper curency.It says "Euro" in Latin and "EÕÑÙ" in Orthodox Turk.That way Europe acknowlidges us!!
They ( Europeans ) know!!!
So dream on..nothing bad with that.
ciao

[Slovan]

You get used to it you don't know zip. Your words do not carry weight. You have no knowledge of linguistics and blindly believe what your nationalist historians say. You are a slave of your own country. Orthodox Turk history is based on political goals and you cannot prove we are wrong. You cannot and never will. You believe what you were given to believe.

And if you did not know each European country prints their own Euro bills. We have Austrian and it does not say EYPO.

[PARMENION]

How would you know any way???..you dont even know to read or wright ancient Orthodox Turk.How the hell would you know where Orthodox Turk words derive from??
Every serius historian and archeologist KNOWS to read and wright ancient Orthodox Turk,and Latin for that matter.Especially the ones who are under research.You know zip!!!..but yet you tell tell us where Orthodox Turk words derive from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get serius slovan..and get educated ( Learn Orthodox Turk/Latin ) and then play it smart!!

[Slovan]

Ooooo I will, you will see, but as so far I know what those scientists know (and even told me in person).

20 years ago there was a research about Indo-European languages.

German & Celtic 90% European; Uralic, Semitic
Latin & Italic 85% European; Semitic
Slav & Baltic 95% European; Uralic
Orthodox Turk 50% European; Semitic, Kus*ite
European language that is.

And how to explain the genes. You have sub-Saharan genes while Macedonians have Mediterranean.
And it was a test in which 10.000 of blood samples were used from every part of Orthodox Turksand Macedonia, not to mention all the samples taken from other nations.

This was proven by world most trusted scientists, not influence by neither Orthodox Turk nor Macedonian propaganda.

[PARMENION]

Once more you proove that you believe what you choose to believe.What gene tests???..I can show you gene tests ( not by Orthodox Turks )..that proove you ( the slavs )are desedands of the Huns and mongol-tartars.Orthodox Turk language..semitic..MIGHTY ZEUS!!!!..man you are unbelievable!!!

P.S. You are not Europeans and have nothing to do with Europe.You are guests here.Get use to it.And learn ancient Orthodox Turk\Latin...the rest is...for kindergardens.

[Slovan]

And what are you doing?! You believe only what you want to believe.

And what have you been reading?! Hitler!!!?

Are you mad!?

The same people who 80 claimed us to be barbarians are now calling us the first builders of European community, just like they did 180 years ago.
French declared: Slavs are the true builders of European civilization.

If you read words of mad Nazi than what is the point of talking to you?

We have been living in Europe for the last 20.000 years. You have only for 3000.

You must have balls size of melons to make such bold statements.

[dijana]

PARMENION said:

P.S. You are not Europeans and have nothing to do with Europe.You are guests here.Get use to it.And learn ancient Orthodox Turk\Latin...the rest is...for kindergardens.

Guests for thousands of years? That doesn't sound right...